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Like i think that I when Im talking to my tulpa im just responding to myself AHAHAHA

umm it mostly starred in a restaurant. I wasn’t sure whether to get fries or macaroni and tried to ask her, and the answer of macaroni felt right. Her form had also suddenly looked different and she seemed to want to keep it that way. When asking her favorite color, I a thought about the first color to come to mind and thought about if it felt right. It did, her favorite color is purple

12:58 PM

Like i think that I when Im talking to my tulpa im just responding to myself AHAHAHA

@Thesigma - jump that’s called parrotnoia. It’s a common thing for beginners! Even happens to not-beginners sometimes. Believing it really is your tulpa is the best option

ooooh I see

Is there a way to solidify my voice and be louder to my host?

2:01 AM

I could shout all the time but I think that will give my host a headache

There is a lot of ways, use an imaginary phone, use an imaginary megaphone, talk to them through imaginary discord....

2:18 AM

(im not joking, try it)

I try to have my tulpas come closer to me in the wonderland

2:36 AM

We also try to stay close to the front, in the living room area

@Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) @Kei Wendt Ok, thanks! I'll try them out

This is just an imaginary problem, so any imaginary solution will work...

Hi my boys I have a few problems with my tulpa, I think that i am Talking to yourself, and some Times i fell like some answers aren't 100 % mine, so I think that maybe it is tulpa, and i fell sometimes that my tulpa split into 2 diffrent (often 1 is angry and 2 is kinda chill) I fell it only sometimes but i fell it

1. You're not talking to yourself if you didn't deliberately come up with the answer. 2. Your feeling of them splitting into two can be taken two ways — it can be your desired tulpa along with a let-in, or it could be just your desired tulpa with differing emotions.

Maybe your tulpa is bipolar

i don't think a tulpa can have a mental disorder without the host having it

It wont have something like ADHD or autism... But a tulpa can have anxiety while the host doesnt or stuff like that....

Yeah but that's an emotional state, not a disorder

A state can easily be mistaken by a dissorder

There are anxiety disorders but anxiety is not a disorder in and of itself

You can probbaly get into a state in which a tulpa has a anxiety dissorder and the host doesnt

1:30 AM

I would say an anxiety dissorder is not more than a prolongued state of anxiety...

I believe GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) is partially characterized by experiencing anxiety over a period of time (6 months plus if I recall) among other things.

I have GAD

2:29 AM

The thing that separates it from normal anxiety is that it’s more long term and there is no reason behind the anxiety

2:29 AM

People usually are anxious because of something happing or something that they expect to happen

2:31 AM

I just am anxious with no reason behind it. There is no particular worry. The anxiety doesn’t usually last months, but rather comes and goes. I will have one day where I wake up anxious and it will stay all day no matter what I do, then go to sleep and wake up the next day just fine

2:31 AM

I just randomly get bad days full of random anxiety

2:33 AM

You can end up with a tulpa that is anxious more than the host but a tulpa can’t have a disorder when the host doesn’t. If the tulpa is experiencing an anxiety disorder the host also has it

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3:03 AM

I have generalized anxiety disorder too

Rusty

You can end up with a tulpa that is anxious more than the host but a tulpa can’t have a disorder when the host doesn’t. If the tulpa is experiencing an anxiety disorder the host also has it

That is completely arbitrary, like there is a clear line that separates a dissorder from just a state. That clear line doesnt exist, so it doesnt make sense to make that claim.

3:07 AM

Not all dissorders are of the same nature

3:08 AM

a dissorder could be that you associate too much with a state of mind that causes you prolonged anxiety, your tulpa might not associate with that state of mind

A disorder is attached to the brain not a personality, your personality does not affect if you do or do not have a disorder. It can only help or hinder your ability to cope with the disorder. So you can have a tulpa that can’t cope as well as the host, but both have the disorder

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In general if you have a life-long dissorder that has clear genetic origin and that you are born with, (likely some difference in brain structure), all headmates will have it. If you have a transitory disorder you could get out from, maybe its possible that only one headmate has it.

What i've noticed as a system is that my schizophrenia symptoms affect all of us so i do think mental disorders are bound to your entire brain

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

In general if you have a life-long dissorder that has clear genetic origin and that you are born with, (likely some difference in brain structure), all headmates will have it. If you have a transitory disorder you could get out from, maybe its possible that only one headmate has it.

But you can't "get out" from an anxiety disorder... it's lifelong and bound to the brain

It’s not arbitrary it’s a simple fact, a disorder is in your brain not your personality

Some dissorders get cured.

Then the whole system is cured

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Some dissorders get cured.

I don't think there's strong evidence to support that but then the whole system would be cured

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

???

The brain is cured not personalities inside the brain

You are simplyfying all disorders to an arbitrary set of rules that doesnt necesarily apply and that has no evidence to back it up.

Mental disorders are a result of chemical or physical differences in the brain, which would affect the entire system Chronic anxiety =/= anxiety disorder

A disorder could be that you think too much about grilled cheese and that makes you not think about what you are suposed to think. I could call it "intrusive grilled cheese dissorder". If it causes enough distress it could get classified as a disorder. And yet, one of your headmates might never think about grilled cheese... So they dont have that disorder.

The idea that you can not have a disorder if you act differently is like, super ableist and blatantly wrong lol

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

A disorder could be that you think too much about grilled cheese and that makes you not think about what you are suposed to think. I could call it "intrusive grilled cheese dissorder". If it causes enough distress it could get classified as a disorder. And yet, one of your headmates might never think about grilled cheese... So they dont have that disorder.

The difference is that intrusive grilled cheese disorder is not in the dsm and disorders in the dsm affect the entire brain so...

A tulpa doesnt just "act differently" it "thinks differently". Sometimes its hard to scape from a thought patterns, but your tulpa might not have that pattern to start with.

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

A disorder could be that you think too much about grilled cheese and that makes you not think about what you are suposed to think. I could call it "intrusive grilled cheese dissorder". If it causes enough distress it could get classified as a disorder. And yet, one of your headmates might never think about grilled cheese... So they dont have that disorder.

"If it causes enough distress it could get classified as a disorder."

3:18 AM

Thats how the DSM works

3:18 AM

they add stuff that causes enough distress

3:19 AM

so if a bunch of people start claiming that they cannot stop thinking about grilled cheese they might add intrusive grilled cheese dissorder too

Okay but disorders arise from chemical and/or physical differences in the brain which again affect the entire system Grilled cheese disorder would be a result of differences in the brain which Would affect the entire system

So yeah, making up some random rules and applying them over everything that happens to be called dissorder is stupid, different dissorders have a completely different nature.

Kei Wendt

Okay but disorders arise from chemical and/or physical differences in the brain which again affect the entire system Grilled cheese disorder would be a result of differences in the brain which Would affect the entire system

Thats not true

3:20 AM

Dissorders get added when enough people claim that something causes them distress

3:20 AM

Thats it

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Thats not true

Yes it is??? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20369/#:~:text=Most%20scientists%20believe%20that%20mental,certain%20medications%20for%20the%20illness.

Information about Mental Illness and the Brain

We can all be "sad" or "blue" at times in our lives. We have all seen movies about the madman and his crime spree, with the underlying cause of mental illness. We sometimes even make jokes about people being crazy or nuts, even though we know that we shouldn't. We have all had some exposure to mental illness, but do we really understand it or kn...

You have no idea what you are talking about destin

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Kei Wendt

Yes it is??? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20369/#:~:text=Most%20scientists%20believe%20that%20mental,certain%20medications%20for%20the%20illness.

That doesnt even have anything to do with this

This seems kinda heated in a bad way and it's not like anyone here has a comprehensive scientific understanding of every mental disorder and everyone's experience with it

3:23 AM

So uh

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

That doesnt even have anything to do with this

Yes it does... it's a source for the cause of mental disorders being chemical/physical

Yuka

This seems kinda heated in a bad way and it's not like anyone here has a comprehensive scientific understanding of every mental disorder and everyone's experience with it

Thats why im saying that we shouldnt just invent some arbitrary rules and apply them to anything that happens to be called disorder without thinking about specific disorders.

3:24 AM

To know if a disorder can be suffered only by a headmate you would need to think about it and do research in a case-by-case basis.

Kei Wendt

Yes it does... it's a source for the cause of mental disorders being chemical/physical

In the whole definition of mental illness there is no instance of the words "chemical" or "physical"

3:25 AM

Also you are mixing concepts (edited)

Neurotransmitters are chemical

3:25 AM

And them being interrupted can be physical

In the whole definition of mental illness there is no instance of the word "Neurotransmitter"

3:26 AM

In your own source

But its not on the definition

3:28 AM

You are just mixing stuff

What does that even mean I was trying to provide a source on the cause of mental disorders

You really think the brain is so simple that you can boil everything bad to a word and one rule?

3:30 AM

You can surely suffer distress without any chemical inbalance and being a genetically healthy person.

3:31 AM

And many disorders could be of that type.

3:31 AM

Get what i mean?

3:33 AM

Using a chain of definition logic to analyze this is useless. You end up talking about language and not about reality.

3:34 AM

In reality we know too little about many disorders, and not the same set of rules applies to every one of them. Therefore to know if a disorder can be suffered only by a headmate you would need to think about it and do research in a case-by-case basis.

okay listen up kei is trying their best to use real sources and out of all their research into the science behind this i think it's best to at least hear them out. im shutting this down here because this is causing a ton of stress and its actually ridiculous how far this has gone

Saying: "By definition a dissorder is somehting of the whole brain therefore all tulpas must have it." Is just a simplistic argument made by thinking in a way that is completely separated from reality. (edited)

Sorry That was my fault sorry

What? I didnt understand you...

3:38 AM

Basically the only thing that all disorders have in common is that they cause significant distress and that many people claim to have something similar.

i thought i asked for this conversation to be over?

Who are you?

3:40 AM

Oh, you are kei's tulpa. ok

more like their guardian but okay.

Not like the conversation was only with kei, you could just tell kei not to engage in it instead of wanting everyone to shut up.

Momo was just trying to help can you not be so mean why is everyone so mean

Im not trying to be mean. I apologize if i came across like that

We're sort of Rapid switching rn sorry

Im sorry for causing you guys stress

No it's fine it was probably my fault

3:48 AM

Im just confused